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doing well phillip how are you

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doing great doing awesome awesome hey

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and did you know that the worm is back

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we're here at the historic launch

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to learn more from kiko with spacex

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about launching humans

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that's not the role of those that work

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in nasa communication

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but ultimately we work right alongside

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them and that's been a big part of this

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process of working besides the team at

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spacex

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partnership is the right word with

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historical programs like the space

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shuttle

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nasa controlled that information we

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controlled the process we controlled the

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vehicle

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it was nasa's and we owned it and that's

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not the case with this and so um it's

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been

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involved um and we'll talk i'm sure some

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more about that today

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uh but just excited to be here um and

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answer questions that people might have

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ultimately again i i don't have the

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insight of a spacex employee

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um but have had the chance to work with

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them on a lot of projects as we saw

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earlier today with some of the 360 video

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stuff we'll see you guys

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see that again tomorrow morning um this

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video and i've been over that way a few

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times and worked on different projects

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with them

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over the years so excited to be a part

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of this picture

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a part of this mission a part of what's

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happening and

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ultimately just working with them

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through this process for sure so let's

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let's hop right in stephanie do we have

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any questions from online yes we have a

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few great questions for you joshua so

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here's one for

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yuri he wants to know why was the falcon

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9 and crew dragon erected at lc-39a

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versus stacking it up right at the vab

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and transporting it out to the pad

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yeah so this is fun and we heard regina

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spellman talk about this when it comes

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to

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the the fashionability of architecture

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with rocketry

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and this may not be quite the same thing

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because she was referring to things like

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clean pad

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and then fixed pad structures but this

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is

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similar where companies decide to do

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things different ways

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and so we have lots of companies and

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actually philip you can probably speak

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to this some too

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because the launch services program they

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experience this with different partners

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of how they operate and process

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and so i'm sure there are some technical

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reasons but i think that there are

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probably pros and cons to both of those

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and so spacex they decided that they

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wanted to put

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their vehicles right there near the pad

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so that they could go out and come back

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quickly

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obviously if you watch rollout this past

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week if you watch kind of that vertical

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tip

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you know that they they can do this in a

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matter of a few hours it's a very speedy

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process

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whereas nasa with us working in the

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vehicle assembly building

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we have to take at least a full day to

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make that trip

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out to the launch pad and now there's

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again pros and cons to both

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with the vehicle assembly building all

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of our hardware is very far from the

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launch pad

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um where your fueling is happening and

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so we're distant from that um

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with the spacex concept with the hangar

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being there like they're closer to

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their their fueling and they're closer

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to the rocket when it's armed um and so

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ultimately again pros and cons and

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that's just the way they decided to do

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it that's their architecture

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so phil i don't know if you want to add

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any more um again just curious to know

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your perspective on this

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right that's a really good connection

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that you drew um between you know the

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different decisions that space

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that the launch vehicles make for human

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space flight the same thing happens for

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robotic scientific missions as well

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so for the launch services program we

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only work with the robotic missions

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so but it's the same thing there's a lot

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of overlap between the companies and the

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programs

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so we have to make sure that our

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spacecraft customers and nasa's people

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who build the spacecraft

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that they are able to adapt to those

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different environments because

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you know when when they say hey lsp can

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you get us a rocket

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we need to make sure that the rocket is

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able to meet the needs of the spacecraft

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so if the spacecraft

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can go horizontal before launch great if

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it needs to be vertical we need to work

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that problem so it's really interesting

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um

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with such an evolving launch vehicle

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market you know new companies coming up

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and

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introduces a lot of new challenges

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yeah um but it's it's really exciting

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and obviously it drives the market to a

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better place where we you know have

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better options and things are cheaper

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and much more affordable so

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yeah and also just kind of sampling some

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other of the companies around we have

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the launch pad here um launch complex

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41 is where the atlas 5 launches from

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and they actually

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um they bring theirs in horizontally and

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then stack it in a vertical integration

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facility

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and then roll it out to their pad it's

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not quite as far as a vab trip to pad

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um and then we have the delta four pad

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37 they actually

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stack they do the same thing they they

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build it they stack it vertically in the

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building

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so just different options and then we

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have newcomers northrop grumman

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they're operating out of the vehicle

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assembly building and then blue origin

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i'm not quite sure what blue origin is

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doing yet

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um i haven't seen much publicly from

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them um but they're building a lot

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around here right now so i'm anxious to

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see them

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really begin flights from the space

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coast right i'm glad you brought up the

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delta iv heavy because

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before the parker solar probe launched a

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couple of years ago um i actually i

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sat in a parking lot where i could see

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the building and i did a little time

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lapse of seeing the building just crawl

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back so

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that was a very cool thing to see pretty

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unique here on center so

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yeah all right so we have another

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question from our facebook community

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and they want to know was this falcon 9

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booster used on any other previous

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missions or is this its first

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mission yeah good question and this one

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is a brand new booster so obviously

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there we saw and

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kiko kind of alluded to that this being

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a shiny new booster and

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i if i'm not mistaken i believe that in

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the the contract that

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um spacex had with with nasa for this is

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that they had committed they'd be using

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brand new boosters for their flights

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and so um we've seen spacex time and

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time again use

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flight proven boosters is the term that

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they love to use and that makes a lot of

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sense

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um we've seen that happen a lot and that

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may happen at some point um but for this

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point in time they're using brand new

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boosters

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and so excited to have a brand new crew

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dragon a brand new falcon

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to take bob and doug to the space

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station tomorrow

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so joshua i'm going to ask you a

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question that we've asked a lot of our

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guests

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obviously tomorrow is a big day for

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america as a whole

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as well as nasa and spacex so where are

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you going to be watching the launch from

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yeah so i will actually be out at the

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press site um so if you're familiar with

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the countdown clock we featured that

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yesterday one of our shows

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i'll be out there i'll helping support

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media activities

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there's a lot going on we do have some

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media out because they're a huge part of

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our story as well they're a part of what

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we do in

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and how we do it nasa is charged as part

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of its mission as part of its

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its goals is to disseminate as widely as

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practicable what we do

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um that includes everything from science

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research to launches to space station

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activities

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and so uh the media are a major part of

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that where they actually help carry the

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story for us

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so we are excited to have them we are

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glad to have them um

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we welcome them um certainly this

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current environment we're

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we're limiting the the specific numbers

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just for the sake of health and safety

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um but that aside we love to just have

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as many people as we can really helping

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to

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i'm i'm from texas originally i've only

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lived in florida for about three and a

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half years

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so i was never here when the space

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shuttle flew so i've been here on an

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exciting launch day

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but never for a human launch day so can

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you describe you know for me and for

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anybody else who's never been you know

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in florida

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you know at the space coast for a human

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launch what the energy feels like

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yeah yeah what it's like to anticipate

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and i have it in mind i have some

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i have a couple photos from sts-135

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uh the final flight of atlantis final

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shuttle flight um atlantis what a beauty

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um and they're really fun photos because

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we i was in the process

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of putting on a show similar to this for

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educational purposes

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where we were actually out on the

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preside lawn and so i actually have a

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photo from there i got to see that one

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from there

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that one was really that one that one

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was on another level

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um there's exciting launches and then

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there's sts-135

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and it's tough to kind of explain that

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to people and most of the

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the terminology in the way i describe

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this feels very cliche

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and and i own that i own that it sounds

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cliche but i still say it explain it

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this way because it's only way now how

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is that working here in the shuttle

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program i was here for the last two and

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a half years of the shuttle program

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and it's amazing how connected you feel

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very fast

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i was working in our education

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department at the time certainly i

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wasn't the one turning wrenches i wasn't

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the one

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pushing the button so to speak but felt

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a part of that and it and that

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i felt like a part of that team and a

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part of that family and so there was

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like this

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it is an indescribable energy of like

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like we're doing this together

568
00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:34,080
and so to know there's crew on board

569
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:35,280
like

570
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:37,679
i think whenever you see the crew drive

571
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:38,480
by

572
00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:40,080
that's like the moment when you're like

573
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,320
whoa because

574
00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:44,400
tomorrow afternoon we're going to see

575
00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:45,919
bob and doug roll by

576
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:48,080
in a in a tesla that's got some

577
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:49,840
beautiful nasa emblems on it

578
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,679
and they're on their way to the pad and

579
00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,679
so that's a moment when you're like man

580
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:55,440
like they're going to strap in on top of

581
00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:56,320
that thing

582
00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,720
um so it's it's it is it is exciting to

583
00:20:02,149 --> 00:19:59,840
see a rocket launch

584
00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:02,159
it is unbelievable to know that there's

585
00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:04,240
people that are strapping themselves in

586
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:06,080
and making that trip into space right

587
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:08,400
it's fun awesome thank you joshua

588
00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:09,600
we have another question from our

589
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,200
facebook community they want to know

590
00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:13,039
will the falcon 9 booster land

591
00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:15,120
back once it puts crew dragon into orbit

592
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,080
yeah so this one

593
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:18,320
um and so the the question there becomes

594
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,760
for the falcon 9 in general their

595
00:20:22,630 --> 00:20:21,039
performance capability

596
00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:22,640
and so we know that we've seen them land

597
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:24,559
here at landing zone 1 um which is

598
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:26,159
at the cape canaveral air force station

599
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,080
we've also seen them land on their barge

600
00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:30,720
out in the atlantic ocean roughly kind

601
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:31,600
of directly off the coast of

602
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,039
jacksonville aways

603
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:35,039
and so a lot of that decision comes down

604
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,159
to how much

605
00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:37,919
fuel do they need to get their payload

606
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:39,600
where it needs to go that's always job

607
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:39,919
one

608
00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:42,400
is get the payload to its intended orbit

609
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:43,280
and so once

610
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:45,360
the first stage is done that's the

611
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,559
decision point and they make this

612
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:49,120
decision way before that moment in time

613
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:50,559
but that's where the booster has to have

614
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:52,559
enough fuel to return and fly back

615
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:54,720
or it has to just continue going towards

616
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,720
the barge and so essentially if you kind

617
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,159
of and this is obviously

618
00:21:01,750 --> 00:20:59,919
very simplified but essentially it

619
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:01,760
launches more on an arc trajectory

620
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,960
because it doesn't fly straight up it

621
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:04,240
flies to go rendezvous with space

622
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,960
station

623
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,960
and so once it flies this direction

624
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:09,360
essentially in order to come back to ksc

625
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,559
or to the cape canaveral air force

626
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:12,000
station it has to have enough fuel to

627
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,559
actually

628
00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:14,960
stop its momentum turn around and then

629
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,240
fly back and land safely

630
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:18,400
that's not a tiny amount of fuel you

631
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,600
need a good bit left there

632
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:21,280
so if they don't have that then what

633
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:22,640
they do is they simply just kind of go

634
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,200
into

635
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:25,360
and it's not a free fall it's it's very

636
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:26,400
precise they have the

637
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,760
their hypersonic grid fins and their

638
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:29,600
landing legs so they're doing a lot of

639
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,640
maneuvering here

640
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:32,080
but they're going to more fall back

641
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:34,799
towards where the barge would be located

642
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,720
so the barge is is kind of a catcher's

643
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:38,320
men of swords um they position it or

644
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:39,440
they know that that booster will come

645
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,919
down

646
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,200
um where they where they have enough

647
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:43,120
fuel to land safely but ultimately

648
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,080
that's they don't have enough

649
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:46,480
to return to their launch site well

650
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,600
joshua we can probably

651
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:49,039
update your tagline from nasa

652
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,320
communications to launch vehicle

653
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:52,080
trajectory analyst because

654
00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,520
clearly you get it am i ready

655
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,360
that's exactly what i do i use my hands

656
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,280
and i say perfect exactly so that was a

657
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,440
great description yes i love it i'm in

658
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,799
all right joshua i think we have time

659
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,400
for one more question and we want to

660
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,400
know what does it mean to you personally

661
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:08,159
to have human space flight return to the

662
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:09,200
united states

663
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,679
yeah such a such a good question uh and

664
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:12,880
i think that

665
00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:16,480
there's there's a sense to where

666
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,840
i've heard it answered a couple

667
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:19,520
different ways and i think all of them

668
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:20,720
are really valid

669
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,400
uh the first is that there's this

670
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:24,240
there's this inerrant drive in humanity

671
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:25,520
to explore

672
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:28,640
and i think that that is something that

673
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:29,919
this moment connects with a lot of

674
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,559
people that you don't have to be the one

675
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:33,840
hopping on that boat to cross the

676
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:34,960
atlantic for the first time you don't

677
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:35,919
have to be the one hopping on that

678
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:37,360
rocket to fly into space

679
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,640
you don't have to be the one trekking

680
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:40,880
across america and over

681
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:44,320
the um and over the plains and over the

682
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:45,280
rocky mountains

683
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:46,480
there's something about that that's

684
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,360
really just captivating

685
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,840
we saw this with the moon landings of

686
00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:53,360
people stopped and took notice around

687
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:54,640
the world everybody did and everybody

688
00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:55,760
kind of owned a piece of that

689
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,159
like we did it we we've accomplished

690
00:23:00,710 --> 00:23:00,000
this and so there's that that's really

691
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:00,720
important

692
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,280
um i think that there's there's a sense

693
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,480
to where it's just

694
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:06,320
it's just achievement it's just hey like

695
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,600
we are

696
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,440
we have this ability um we're ready to

697
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,200
move forward um there's

698
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,799
there's the desire to kind of expand

699
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,400
beyond of like we know this is

700
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,960
this is a stepping stone with which we

701
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:18,480
will go farther than we have before and

702
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,919
i think that's really powerful

703
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:21,280
um and then there's other things for

704
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:22,400
people who don't connect with those

705
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,520
ideas there's things that i would

706
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:25,520
encourage them to think through of like

707
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,720
when we do anything nasa one of the

708
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,760
things that happens

709
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:32,400
is called spinoff technology where we

710
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:33,039
actually

711
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:35,919
create things we we create brand new

712
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:36,799
things

713
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:39,039
to help us achieve our goals um we heard

714
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:40,720
jim moreheart earlier today here sitting

715
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:41,440
in this seat

716
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,880
talking about in-situ resource

717
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:44,400
utilization which is living off of the

718
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:45,919
moon's resources

719
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:48,640
and so we will invent technology to live

720
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,559
off the resources of the moon

721
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,080
and that technology will not be used

722
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,840
just for that we will export that

723
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:55,600
technology to commercial companies on

724
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,159
earth

725
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:58,320
now obviously they may or may not go to

726
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:59,360
the moon but there are other

727
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:01,120
applications for that technology

728
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:04,159
um people often times will cite some

729
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:05,360
popular examples

730
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,640
um velcro is a is a common one that's

731
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:10,080
not actually invented by us

732
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:11,520
but that's kind of the idea there of

733
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:13,600
like when we use it we develop it and

734
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,440
and export the technology for others to

735
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:16,960
to benefit and that's what we mean when

736
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:18,559
we say the benefit of all mankind that's

737
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:19,360
a part of that

738
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:20,960
um so the cell phone that you keep in

739
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:23,600
your pocket uh that cell phone would not

740
00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:24,960
be anywhere near

741
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:27,200
as amazing as it is today without nasa

742
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:28,480
we have helped drive forward

743
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:29,360
communication

744
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,960
we've helped drive forward battery

745
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,480
technology we've helped

746
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,880
drive forward gps and satellite systems

747
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:36,720
and so all of those things kind of come

748
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:37,200
together

749
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:38,320
that's just one example there's

750
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:39,440
everything from your sneakers to your

751
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:40,320
tennis rackets

752
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,880
to infrared technology i mean even in

753
00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:44,159
your house there's dozens of things

754
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,200
today

755
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,039
so just encourage you all to think

756
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:48,960
through those um for me personally

757
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:51,440
it i think that i get i get captivated

758
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:52,080
in

759
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,360
than myself of just

760
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,039
this is something that we can achieve

761
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,400
together and

762
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:02,400
despite the challenges despite setbacks

763
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:03,679
that happen despite

764
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:06,320
um the things that keep us from getting

765
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,840
there today immediately now

766
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,039
uh those are the things that make it

767
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,960
worth it right uh we get to

768
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:12,640
to overcome and triumph so those are the

769
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:13,840
those are the things that come to mind

770
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,880
but i think that last one is really

771
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,320
where i'm at i'm just like

772
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:18,480
being a part of something big is is a

773
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:19,360
pleasure and a joy

774
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:20,799
and i hope that all of america will feel

775
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:23,200
that tomorrow um as we achieve this for

776
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,919
america

777
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:26,080
and for all humankind that's really

778
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:27,279
great that's awesome and i'm glad you

779
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:27,919
mentioned you know

780
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,919
the technology and the applicability of

781
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:31,919
all these things i think nasa spinoffs

782
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,240
is

783
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:34,640
a way that people can learn about um

784
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,360
yeah

785
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,039
the ways that the things that nasa are

786
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,200
is doing it doesn't stop

787
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:41,120
at where we are going so and i think

788
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:42,240
just personally for me

789
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:43,919
i'm so excited for the launch because as

790
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:45,440
i said i've been here for three years

791
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:46,799
and i've actually been telling i've seen

792
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:49,039
40 launches which is unbelievable like

793
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,640
three years ago i had seen zero and now

794
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:52,080
i've seen 40 launches and

795
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:53,520
everyone has been just a little

796
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,880
different there's you know just

797
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,000
something unique about each

798
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,320
launch and tomorrow it'll be like wow

799
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,760
there's people on there you know

800
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:01,279
i model this rocket all the time but

801
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,880
there's people on that one so that i'm

802
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,720
really excited to see that so

803
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,720
um joshua thank you for your your your

804
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,640
comments all the information and

805
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,000
for being here with us hope you had a

806
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:11,760
good time yeah last thing just want to

807
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,720
give a huge shout out to the

808
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,640
communications teams for both nasa and

809
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:15,679
spacex

810
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:17,919
they have been laboring for years uh

811
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:19,039
working through challenges

812
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:20,880
learning how to work together um and

813
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,240
achieving a ton

814
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:23,760
and tomorrow is going to be another big

815
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:25,120
accomplishment as we do the launch

816
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,559
broadcast side by side

817
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:28,400
i'm telling this story together awesome

818
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:29,760
yeah definitely congratulations to

819
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,279
everyone who's been working on this

820
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:33,360
um yeah stephanie thank you for being a

821
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,320
part of this as well

822
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,320
thanks for having me and thank you all

823
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,480
for joining us we hope you continue to

824
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,799
be a part of these nasa socials

825
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:42,960
next up at four o'clock eastern we will

826
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:45,360
be having a couple more pop-in speakers

827
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,320
so please join us for that and until